tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post1884001821315997988..comments2024-03-18T18:45:59.168-07:00Comments on Home Living: The Ulster-Scots: Forming Western Culture From the 1600's OnwardLydiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-34849753505807874552022-11-23T14:49:36.525-08:002022-11-23T14:49:36.525-08:00My surname is among the presidents. I was not awar...My surname is among the presidents. I was not aware of the Scottish link, and have decided to once again pick up that quest to find out more about my Irish ancestors.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17808242476123222488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-84105293797530502192012-08-23T17:36:05.672-07:002012-08-23T17:36:05.672-07:00well my family was mixed episcopal/roman,and calvi...well my family was mixed episcopal/roman,and calvinist. the cultural differences between the religious groups are very strong,chiefly,my episcopal ancestors ere well to do,conservative,and better educated,my presbyterian ancestors hard working but very prejudice and not forgiving,my catholic ancestors,stayed away from both groups,and kept mainly to themselves,so how do i identify myself,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-3258528428729196742010-11-10T12:56:05.975-08:002010-11-10T12:56:05.975-08:00Yes this is true of course. I do wonder if the Bib...Yes this is true of course. I do wonder if the Bible was not available to everyone as it is today, and that maybe the more ignorant a person was of the word of God, the more likely they were to follow more paganistic beliefs and rituals. Generally wherever the Bible has been read, it creates a different kind of culture than the pagan one. Yes I was referring to some of those old meeting places Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-36290402540645390442010-11-10T12:10:28.491-08:002010-11-10T12:10:28.491-08:00Yes Lydia of course you're right. Long before ...Yes Lydia of course you're right. Long before an established church there must have been small pockets of believers. I'm aware that in the remains of Roman Britain they have found houses with the words Pater Noster 'our Father'carved into the lintels above the doors indicating that they were Christian. Christians and pagans must have lived alongside each other for many centuries. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-67373325881283239112010-11-10T10:56:02.531-08:002010-11-10T10:56:02.531-08:00The definition of Christianity would be where I wo...The definition of Christianity would be where I would differ from the officially printed history, for I believe that in its true primitive form, close to the New Testament pattern, it always existed in the British Isles. I have an old photograph of a meeting place where Christians met for worship on the first day of the week, who called themselves Christians only and who followed the pattern of Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-35681166765379703732010-11-10T09:41:58.477-08:002010-11-10T09:41:58.477-08:00Well Lydia I don't mind a bit about the cosmet...Well Lydia I don't mind a bit about the cosmetics - I'm sure Elizabeth Arden was far superior to Hubbard's Grecian Creams and fully deserved her success! <br /><br />As for the history, well I must say that although there is still very little love lost between the Ulster planters and the native Irish, I was always told by my mother that the Northen Protestants as she called them, had Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-91642640837904225302010-11-09T10:30:23.795-08:002010-11-09T10:30:23.795-08:00Thanks for this important and informative historic...Thanks for this important and informative historical account, and I am truly sorry of your loss of inheritance regarding the cosmetic company taken out from under your family. I also noticed that your history is much more complicated than ours (for example, watch me try to explain how King James the 1st was also the 6th) and about all I could manage to make sense of was the two colonies Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-2346458448928259762010-11-09T08:55:11.596-08:002010-11-09T08:55:11.596-08:00For anyone who is interested, the tricolour flag o...For anyone who is interested, the tricolour flag of the Republic of Ireland represents the green of the Catholics, the Orange of the Protestants and the white symbolizes the wish for peace between the two communities. <br /><br />I'm Irish (Republic of Ireland) Catholic but would you believe I'm descended from English puritans who came over with Cromwell in the 1600s. There were two Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-35094538069298716062010-09-13T00:16:25.373-07:002010-09-13T00:16:25.373-07:00Joy, My parents grandparents told them they were f...Joy, My parents grandparents told them they were from County Antrim and that they were not Irish. This was handed down through several generations and finally is coming out in history books. Being more orange than green is another thing that your ancestors handed down and is now verified by recent research. The Ulsters contributed a lot to the American culture, and some researchers have said thatLydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-1936994582320767412010-09-12T23:41:32.464-07:002010-09-12T23:41:32.464-07:00Thanks for this post. I remember my grandpa telli...Thanks for this post. I remember my grandpa telling us on St Patrick's day that we were orange Irish, not green Irish, and I never knew what he meant. Our family name is Carney, with McGee and Ferguson as other names. My ancestors (women too!)have been in California since well before the gold rush. This helped to fill in some holes for me.Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586946932983322520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-6624952951176396442010-09-12T23:40:49.164-07:002010-09-12T23:40:49.164-07:00Thanks for this post. I remember my grandpa telli...Thanks for this post. I remember my grandpa telling us on St Patrick's day that we were orange Irish, not green Irish, and I never knew what he meant. Our family name is Carney, with McGee and Ferguson as other names. My ancestors (women too!)have been in California since well before the gold rush. This helped to fill in some holes for me.Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586946932983322520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-60983625931833637702010-07-06T09:21:18.390-07:002010-07-06T09:21:18.390-07:00While they disliked to ask for help, they were alw...While they disliked to ask for help, they were always ready to help someone else build their house or house people after a disaster or a fire.<br /><br />The Southerners in America carry on the Ulster tradition in a large way, as many of them have kept up with their geneologies dating back to Pennsylvania where the first wave of them settled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-32308465508055622782010-07-06T09:05:54.436-07:002010-07-06T09:05:54.436-07:00I grew up around Ulster-Scots descendents and I ha...I grew up around Ulster-Scots descendents and I have to tell you some of their qualities:<br /><br />they shrunk at letting anyone help them because they were very independent and felt ashamed if they ever asked for anything. If they had nothing, never would they beg or feel entitled. They just accepted it as the Lord's will in their journey on this earth and they learned from it. In fact, Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-63996969159437540752010-07-06T08:13:47.225-07:002010-07-06T08:13:47.225-07:00Anne in Scotland,
I understand this renewed inter...Anne in Scotland,<br /><br />I understand this renewed interest in the Ulster-Scots and Scots in America has come from some kind of anniversary celebration of the two plantations. What do you know about this.<br /><br />Regarding homeschooling: the Scots that pioneered America did not cluster together with other Scots but spread out and were perfectly content to be independent families. They all Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-20670877526499400872010-07-06T08:09:43.589-07:002010-07-06T08:09:43.589-07:00Homeschool on the Croft has left a new comment on ...Homeschool on the Croft has left a new comment on your post "The Ulster-Scots: Forming the American Culture Fro...": <br /><br />Loved the post! If only it were that easy for us Scots-Irish to come over nowadays! We'd be over on the next boat! (well, plane, but you know what I mean!)<br />We are Scottish Highlanders (were born in, and still live in, the Outer Hebrides). So many of &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-18400746015677399022010-07-06T00:08:37.493-07:002010-07-06T00:08:37.493-07:00Loved the post! If only it were that easy for us S...Loved the post! If only it were that easy for us Scots-Irish to come over nowadays! We'd be over on the next boat! (well, plane, but you know what I mean!)<br />We are Scottish Highlanders (were born in, and still live in, the Outer Hebrides). So many of 'our' people are now 'your' people, and we always speak of that to our children: what these hard-working, self-sufficient, Homeschool on the Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03400742529025230433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-6507670441169986072010-07-04T17:52:43.505-07:002010-07-04T17:52:43.505-07:00I work on the oldest farm in America still owned b...I work on the oldest farm in America still owned by the same family since 1632.We are always interested to hear the story of other families that ventured into this great land at the same time.With so many links I feel I will return to this post more than once.The Hobbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05689995726270083268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-51010752815119547402010-07-04T15:43:48.025-07:002010-07-04T15:43:48.025-07:00Fascinating and motivational post! Thank you.Fascinating and motivational post! Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-32689407620854308242010-07-04T15:22:58.250-07:002010-07-04T15:22:58.250-07:00From what I faintly recall, according to the stori...From what I faintly recall, according to the stories I was told, growing up, Carrickfergus Castle was given to the king of Ulster but later the king of England imprisoned him there. Those who lived there before the Scots were called the "Picts" by the Roman invaders, because of the pictures they painted on their faces and bodies. Another story I was told is that the Ulster-Scots got Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-79642498270711568682010-07-04T15:07:40.970-07:002010-07-04T15:07:40.970-07:00Wow, this was great. I'll have to go back and ...Wow, this was great. I'll have to go back and read it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-39464407363971714042010-07-04T11:25:38.244-07:002010-07-04T11:25:38.244-07:00Dear Lydia,
Such a heartrending plea you have sen...Dear Lydia,<br /><br />Such a heartrending plea you have sent to the Ulster Scots overseas...may they come once again in waves...<br />Lynn MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-1433446794573696432010-07-04T09:24:26.197-07:002010-07-04T09:24:26.197-07:00I will also add a painting of John Knox, a Ulster-...I will also add a painting of John Knox, a Ulster-Soctsman,(correct me if I am wrong) correcting Mary, Queen of Scots. She was quoted as saying, "I fear the prayers of John Knox more than an army of 10,000 men."Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-76428096174088164212010-07-04T09:23:00.893-07:002010-07-04T09:23:00.893-07:00Thats incredible--just a minute before I saw your ...Thats incredible--just a minute before I saw your post, someone told me I got it backwards--and also added it was the same James that authorized the Bible in English....I will correct the main article. Thanks for writing!Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530969871397361970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9186456.post-54736531263387256662010-07-04T09:12:29.957-07:002010-07-04T09:12:29.957-07:00It was James I of England and VI of scotland. He w...It was James I of England and VI of scotland. He was the son of Mary Queen of Scots who was the daughter of James the V of Scotland.<br /><br />Yes it gets complicated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com